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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship♪ LISA: TONIGHT ON PBS NEWS WEEKEND, ISRAEL'S TWO FRONTS.
WE LOOK NORTH TO THE CONFLICT IN LEBANON FOR A RARE ON THE GROUND LOOK AT THE ISRAELI MILITARY.
THEN FOLLOWING NEPAL'S UNREST WE LOOK AT WHAT IS BEHIND THE GEN Z PROTEST THAT TOPPLED GOVERNMENT.
AND AIMS TO BLOW OUR MINDS, A NEW ARCHIVE IN LONDON CELEBRATING THE CAREER OF ROCK STAR MAN DAVID BOWIE.
>> EVERY DAY WE FIND INTERESTING STORIES.
♪ LISA: GOOD EVENING.
I'M LISA DESJARDINS.
NEW DETAILS ON THE SUSPECTED SHOOTER IN THE CHARLIE KIRK ASSASSINATION WHICH UTAH'S GOVERNOR SAYS MAY PROVIDE CLUES ABOUT THE MOTIVE.
THE STATE OF UTAH WHERE THE MURDER OCCURRED EXPECTS CHARGES WILL BE FILED THIS WEEK.
TODAY GOVERNOR SPENCER COX UNCOVERED NEW DETAILS ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION.
HE SAID THE SUSPECT WAS IN A ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS ROOMMATE WHO IS TRANSGENDER AND THE ALLEGED GUNMAN SPOKE WITH OTHERS ABOUT HIS DISLIKE OF CHARLIE KIRK AND AFTER THE SHOOTING FRIENDS OF THE SUSPECT JOKED WITH HIM HE LOOKED LIKE THE SHOOTER POLICE WERE SEARCHING FOR BUT DID NOT THINK IT WAS REALLY HIM.
GOVERNOR COX SAID AN IMPORTANT NEXT STEP IS TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHY THE SUSPECT CHOSE VIOLENCE AND IF SOCIAL MEDIA PLAYED A ROLE.
>> I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THE DAMAGE SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE INTERNET IS DOING TO ALL OF US, THOSE DOPAMINE HITS.
THESE COMPANIES, TRILLION DOLLAR MARKET CAP, THE MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD, HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO HACK OUR BRAINS, GET US ADDICTED TO OUTRAGE.
LISA: THE GOVERNOR SAID THE SUSPECTS FAMILY AND TRANSGENDER ROOMMATE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE AND HELPFUL TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UPPORTERS OF CHARLIE KIRK SET UP A MEMORIAL IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA AND A PRAYER VIGIL IS SET AT THE KENNEDY CENTER IN WASHINGTON, D.C. NOW TO AFRICA AND SOUTHERN CONGO WHERE A FEW HUNDRED DOSES OF VACCINE HAVE FINALLY REACHED AN AREA DEALING WITH AN EBOLA OUTBREAK.
SOME 400 DOSES ARRIVED AND TENS OF THOUSANDS MORE HAVE NOT MADE IT.
EFFORT HAS BEEN SLOW DOWN FROM LACK OF FUNDS AND TROUBLE ACCESSING THE AREA.
IN THE PAST THE UA PROVIDED HELP WITH OUTBREAKS IN CONGO.
THE AGENCY WAS DISMANTLED EARLIER THIS YEAR BY PRESIDENT TRUMP IT IN THE MIDDLE EAST QATAR'S PRIME MINISTER DENOUNCED ISRAEL SAYS IT THREATENS EFFORTS TO NORMALIZE TIES AFTER QATAR HOST A MEETING OF MUSLIM AND ARAB LEADERS TO CONSIDER A RESPONSE AND SAYS IT WILL STILL WORK FOR A CEASE-FIRE IN GAZA.
N GAZA THE ISRAELI MILITARY STRUCK ALL DOUBLE HIGH-RISE ILL DINGS IN GAZA CITY TODAY KILLING AT LEAST 13 PALESTINIANS.
THE BLAST SENT PEOPLE SCRAMBLING IN A CITY WHERE THERE IS A SHRINKING NUMBER OF PLACES TO SHELTER PAIRED THE IDF ARE URGED PALESTINIAN'S TO EVACUATE SOUTH BUT RESIDENTS SAY THERE IS NO EASY PATH TO SAFETY.
AS IT INTENSIFIES WITH WAR IN THE SOUTH, ISRAEL HAS A SIMMERING CONFLICT ON ITS NORTHERN BORDER WITH LEBANON.
ISRAEL WAS SUPPOSED TO WITHDRAW FROM THE AREA IN JANUARY BUT THE MILITARY HAS RECENTLY EXPANDED ITS PRESENCE STATING THE MILITANT GROUP HEZBOLLAH WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE TERMS AND AN ACTIVE THREAT.
OUR CORRESPONDENT BRINGS US THIS REPORT.
REPORTER: AN ISRAELI FLAG FIRMLY PLANTED ON THE SOIL, I NEW POSTED IDF SET UP IN LEBANON IN RECENT MONTHS.
A ROADBLOCK.
NEXT WITH THE BURNT HULL OF A CAR HIT BY ISRAELI FIRE AS A WARNING.
NEXT SEE THAT MACHINE-GUN THEY PUT UP ON THE BASE?
WE GET CLOSE TO THOSE BARRELS, THEY SHOOT IMMEDIATELY.
REPORTER: HE USED TO LIVE HERE, HIS HOUSE NOTHING MORE THAN A PILE OF RUBBLE.
>> THAT IS MY HOUSE.
YOU SEE THAT TREE JUST 20 METERS FROM HERE.
MY HOUSE WENT IN AN AIR RAID BUT THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BOOBY-TRAPPED AND DETONATED IN A SINGLE DAY.
>> THE IDEA -- IDF BASE IS LOCATED WITHIN LEBANON TERRITORY AND HAS CUT OFF THE MAIN ROAD TO THE BORDER.
FAMILY HOMES USED TO BE AN AREA INCLUDING AREAS RAISED TO THE GROUND IN WHAT AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL CALL DELIBERATE DESTRUCTION OF CIVILIAN PROPERTY.
THE NEWLY ELECTED MAYOR SAID ONE THIRD OF AGRICULTURAL LAND REMAINS INACCESSIBLE.
>> FARMERS CAN'T MOVE AWAY FROM THEIR LAND, THEY DEPEND ON IT TO SURVIVE, THEY MUST RETURN IT.
REPORTER: THE MAYOR SAYS THE IDF HAS KILLED FIVE CIVILIANS AS THEY TRIED TO RETURN TO THEIR LAND.
>> THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE HERE.
THEY WANT THIS TO BECOME A BUFFER ZONE.
IF THEY TARGET ONE PERSON, THE OTHERS WILL NOT TRY TO COME BACK.
>> THE IDF WAS SUPPOSED TO LEAVE IN JANUARY BUT IN MARCH THE ISRAELI DEFENSE MINISTER SAID IT WOULD INDEFINITELY KEEP FIVE OUTPOSTS IN THE TERRITORY AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO PEACEKEEPERS WHO LIKE THE LEBANESE ARMY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO STOP THE ONGOING OCCUPATION.
THE IDF HAS HIGH VANTAGE POINTS OVERLOOKING ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS AND COULD BE USED TO LAUNCH ATTACKS.
WE DROVE ALONG THE BORDER TO SEE THE IMPACT OF ISRAEL'S MILITARY ACTION.
>> THE FIRST THING YOU NOTICE IS THE UTTER LEVEL OF DESTRUCTION HERE, THERE'S BARELY A HOUSE STANDING.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET FROM VILLAGE TO VILLAGE BECAUSE OF THE NEW ISRAELI OUTPOST WE ARE HAVING TO TAKE DETOURS, SOME OF THE ROADS HAVE BEEN BLOCKED OFF BECAUSE IT IS TOO DANGEROUS.
WE FIND VILLAGE AFTER VILLAGE REDUCED TO GHOST TOWN.
THESE ARE THE RUINS OF KFAR KILA.
IN THE DISTANCE ON THE HILL BEHIND IT WE CAN SEE ANOTHER IDF BASE.
THIS IS THE DEEPEST IDF POST LOOKING OVER PLAINS OF KHIAM, FROM WHERE HEZBOLLAH USED TO LAUNCH ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL.
HEZBOLLAH HAS SEIZED ITS ATTACKS ON ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS, SEEN HERE ACROSS THE WALL, BUT THE IDF HAS SHOWN NO SIGNS OF LEAVING, MAKING ITS WITHDRAWAL CONDITIONAL ON THE GROUP'S COMPLETE DISARMAMENT.
MEANWHILE ISRAEL HAS COMMITTED NEAR DAILY CEASEFIRE VIOLATIONS.
ALI FAQIH IS A CONSTRUCTION WORKER WHOSE BULLDOZER WAS TAKEN OUT BY AN ISRAELI DRONE EARLIER THIS MONTH.
THE DRONE SEEMS TO HAVE DROPPED EXPLOSIVES OR FIRED A SMALL PROJECTILE, SETTING FIRE TO THE ENGINE.
ALI BELIEVES THE GOAL WAS TO INTIMIDATE VILLAGERS WHO TRY TO REBUILD.
>> WE ARE WORKING ON OUR HOMES THAT GOD DAMAGED DURING THE WAR.
IF THEY THE IDF THINK THESE STRIKES WILL MAKE US LEAVE, THEY ARE WRONG.
THIS IS OUR LAND AND WE WILL DIE HERE.
REPORTER: AFTER THE ATTACK, ANOTHER DRONE DROPPED FLYERS ONTO THE AREA.
>> IT SAYS THAT THE BULLDOZER WAS IN FACT REHABILITATING A MILITARY INSTALLATION BELONGING TO HEZBOLLAH.
YOU CAN SEE AN IMAGE OF THE BULLDOZER RIGHT HERE AND IT GOES ON TO WARN VILLAGERS TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM THE GROUP.
REPORTER: SUPPORT FOR HEZBOLLAH RUNS DEEP IN LEBANON'S SOUTH.
PEOPLE HERE CALL IT "THE RESISTANCE," SEEING IT AS LEBANON'S PRIMARY BULWARK AGAINST ISRAEL BUT ALI SAYS , NEITHER HE NOR HIS CLIENT HAVE ANY CONNECTIONS TO THE GROUP.
>> THEY DON'T WANT ANYONE TO DO CONSTRUCTION WORK HERE, THEY WANT THE AREA TO BE EMPTY SO THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
REPORTER: HEZBOLLAH HAS HANDED OVER HUNDREDS OF ITS MILITARY FACILITIES TO THE LEBANESE ARMY, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO FILL THE SECURITY VACUUM.
BUT IT LACKS THE EQUIPMENT, CAPABILITIES AND POLITICAL BACKING TO PROTECT LEBANON'S SOVEREIGNTY AGAINST THE MUCH MORE POWERFUL IDF.
IN AITA AL-SHAAB, A HEZBOLLAH STRONGHOLD RIGHT ON THE BORDER, PEOPLE HAVE LITTLE CONFIDENCE THAT THE LEBANESE ARMY CAN PROTECT THEM.
>> GOD HELP THE LEBANESE ARMY.
THEY ARE STANDING BY THE BULLDOZER TO PROTECT IT FROM ISRAELI DRONES.
WHAT KIND OF ARMY IS THAT?
LET'S BE HONEST, THEY DON'T PROTECT US.
REPORTER: VILLAGERS SAY THE IDF DESTROYED A LEBANESE ARMY OUTPOST THAT USED TO OVERLOOK THE VILLAGE AND STILL USES IT TO STAGE OPERATIONS.
>> ISRAELI FORCES COME AT NIGHT ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE VILLAGE.
NOT LONG AGO THEY BLEW UP A FEW HOUSES IN THE VILLAGE.
REPORTER: IN THE CEMETERY, WHERE MANY HEZBOLLAH FIGHTERS LAY BURIED, I MET AZIZA SROUR, WHO CAME TO VISIT HER BROTHER'S GRAVE.
SHE IS UNABLE TO RETURN HOME TO HOULA BECAUSE AN IDF POST NOW STANDS ON THE RUBBLE OF HER HOUSE.
FOR HER THE REASON IS CLEAR.
>> ISRAEL'S GOAL IS TO EXPAND, THEY WANT TO CREATE GREATER ISRAEL.
REPORTER: HEZBOLLAH HAS REJECTED US-LED CALLS FOR ITS DISARMAMENT AS LONG AS ISRAEL OCCUPIES LEBANESE LAND.
FOR PBS NEWS WEEKEND, I'M SIMONA FOLTYN AT LEBANON'S BORDER WITH ISRAEL.
LISA: WE REACHED OUT TO THE ISRAELI MILITARY ABOUT OUR REPORT.
THEY TOLD US THEY OPERATE CAREFULLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH INTERNATIONAL LAW AND SAID THEIR ACTIONS IN SOUTHERN LEBANON ARE DEFENSIVE IN NATURE AND ARE MEANT TO NEUTRALIZE IMMEDIATE THREATS TO ISRAEL'S SECURITY.
THEY ADDED THAT ANY CLAIM THAT ISRAEL INTENDS TO OCCUPY LEBANON IS BASELESS, AND THEY STRONGLY CONDEMN IT.
STILL TO COME ON PBS NEWS WEEKEND -- WE EXPLORE A NEW TOOL BEING USED IN THE FIGHT AGAINST SUICIDE, COMEDY.
AND A COLORFUL LEGACY.
THE ARCHIVE OF BRITISH ROCK STAR DAVID BOWIE.
>> THIS IS PBS NEWS WEEKEND FROM THE DAVIDM.
RUBENSTEIN STUDIO AT WETA IN WASHINGTON, HOME OF THE PBS NEWS HOUR WEEKNIGHTS ON PBS.
LISA: NEPAL FINDS NEW CALM THIS WEEKEND WITH THE APPOINTMENT OF A TEMPORARY LEADER, FOLLOWING AN EXTRAORDINARY WEEK OF VIOLENCE.
THE DEATH TOLL NOW STANDS AT OVER 70, AFTER ANTI-CORRUPTION PROTESTS LED TO POLICE CLASHES AND A HOST OF BUILDINGS IN THE CAPITAL BEING SET AFLAME.
AN INTERIM PRIME MINISTER IS IN PLACE, TODAY ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER.
NEW ELECTIONS ARE GOING TO BE HELD IN MARCH, BUT KEY ISSUES - LIKE UNEMPLOYMENT AND INFLATION - THAT DROVE THE PROTESTS, REMAIN UNADDRESSED.
EARLIER I SPOKE WITH ALEX TRAVELLI, A SOUTH ASIA BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES.
HE IS IN KATHMANDU AND I ASKED HIM TO DESCRIBE THE SITUATION THERE TODAY.
ALEX: THE CAPITAL OF NEPAL, KATHMANDU, IS QUIET NOW AND LOOKS NORMAL.
THERE IS STILL A LARGE MILITARY PRESENCE ON THE STREETS BUT THEY ARE NOT BLOCKING TRAFFIC.
A LOT OF BURNED-OUT GOLDING'S SO IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE OLD HALLS OF POWER IT IS LIKE A DISASTER SWEPT THROUGH TOWN.
A FEW OF THEM ARE STILL ON FIRE.
TRAFFIC, BUSINESS, CIVILIAN LIFE IS CARING ON ALMOST AS IF IT WERE AN ORDINARY TIME IN NEPAL WHICH IT IS NOT.
LISA: THIS IS A HISTORIC TIME AND IT SEEMS THE PROTESTS EVOLVED IN PART BECAUSE OF THE BANDS -- BANS OF SOME SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, BUT THERE ALSO SEEMED TO BE A LOT MORE DEEPER ISSUES.
CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THIS EVOLVED?
ALEX: IT IS BECOMING CLEAR THAT THE SOCIAL MEDIA BAN, WHICH WAS THE PROXIMATE CAUSE OR THE TRIGGER FOR THE PROTESTS, WAS A PART OF A GREAT BIG ANGRY HOLE.
IT WAS MONDAY OF THIS PAST WEEK THAT MOSTLY YOUNG PEOPLE TOOK TO THE STREETS IN GREAT NUMBERS.
YOU COULD SEE ALREADY ON THE BANNERS AND PLACARDS THEY WERE CARRYING IT WAS MORE ABOUT ENTRENCHED PROBLEMS THAT NEPAL FACES, POLITICAL PROBLEMS, CORRUPTION, A CULTURE OF IMPUNITY, AND THERE WAS A VAST AMOUNT OF ANGER AND THEN THAT CHANGED MONDAY WHEN ARMED POLICE STARTED FIRING INTO THE CROWDS.
VERY QUICKLY A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE DIED BY POLICE BULLETS, AND THEN THERE'S AN ENTIRELY NEW CAUSE FOR OUTRAGE.
LISA: WHAT HAS DAY-TO-DAY LIFE BEEN LIKE FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE LEADING THE PROTEST?
ALEX: LIFE IN NEPAL IS VERY TOUGH FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND OFTEN THESE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO'VE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT THEIR FAMILY SAVINGS IN EDUCATION.
ONE OF THE SUREST SIGNS OF THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS IS THE NUMBER OF YOUNG NEPALIS WHO HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY IN ORDER TO FIND EMPLOYMENT.
THIS IS OFTEN FOR MENIAL JOBS IN THE GULF OR IN MALAYSIA.
IT IS NOT THAT THESE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO NECESSARILY WANT TO LEAVE NEPAL, BUT ALMOST 2,000 DO LEAVE EVERY DAY.
THERE IS BY SOME ESTIMATE HALF OF THE COUNTRY'S FAMILIES DEPEND ON INCOME BEING SENT BY NEPALIS WORKING ABROAD.
THIS IS A DESPERATE SITUATION AND IT'S NOT ONE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE WANT TO PUT UP WITH FOREVER.
LISA: CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE NEW INTERIM PRIME MINISTER AND WHY IT WAS THAT YOUNG PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR WANTED HER IN THE JOB?
ALEX: IT IS VERY HARD TO GET A GRASP ON WHAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE WANT.
MAINLY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
IT IS A LEADERLESS MOVEMENT, OR THAT IS HOW IT BEGAN.
WE DO KNOW THAT MEMBERS OF THAT LEADERSHIP, HOWEVER THEY WERE CHOSEN, WERE TALKING TO HER.
HER NAME IS SUSHILA KARKI, AND SHE CAME OUT AS THE FAVORED CANDIDATE.
SHE IS A FORMER CHIEF JUSTICE OF NEPAL, IN FACT, THE COUNTRY'S FIRST FEMALE CHIEF JUSTICE AND A JURIST BY TRAINING, INTERESTED IN CONSTITUTIONAL MATTERS, NOT ESPECIALLY BEHOLDEN TO ANY OF THE BIG POLITICAL PARTIES, AND A SATISFYING CHOICE, IF THERE HAD TO BE ONE, FOR A CARETAKER PRIME MINISTER.
LISA: CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND NEPAL'S ROLE IN THE REGION AND WHETHER THESE PROTESTS HAVE ANY WIDER INFLUENCE AS WELL.
IT'S A SMALL COUNTRY, BUT WHERE DOES IT SIT IN TERMS OF ITS IMPORTANCE?
ALEX: IT MAY BE TOO SOON TO TELL BUT NEPAL SITS BETWEEN CHINA AND , INDIA, BIGGEST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD.
THE UNITED STATES, OF COURSE, TAKES A KEEN INTEREST ALSO IN NEPALI AFFAIRS.
IN RECENT YEARS, AS CHINA'S POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER HAVE GROWN, IT'S BECOME A MORE IMPORTANT RIVAL WITH INDIA FOR INFLUENCE IN THE REGION.
EACH OF THEM, THESE GIANT COUNTRIES HAS ITS FAVORITE , POLITICAL PARTIES WITHIN THE OLD POLITICAL ORDER OF NEPAL, - -NEPAL.
NOW THAT THAT POLITICAL ORDER AS A WHOLE SEEMS TO HAVE COLLAPSED.
IT LOOKS SUDDENLY LIKE A CLEAR BOARD IN WHICH THESE TWO, THREE BIG COUNTRIES ARE GONNA START COMPETING AGAIN.
LISA: WHAT'S TO COME?
WE EXPECT ELECTIONS IN SIX MONTHS.
DO YOU THINK THAT THAT IS THE WAY OUT OF THIS CRISIS?
ALEX: WHAT IS CLEAR IS THAT ITS GOING TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT PATH FORWARD.
THERE'S NO PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH YOU COULD SAY, WE KNOW HOW NEPAL IS GOING TO REPLACE ITS ESTABLISHED POLITICAL PARTIES, OR THE PARTIES THEMSELVES PERHAPS WILL STICK AROUND, BUT THEY'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO REPLACE THEIR TARNISHED LEADERSHIP.
PERHAPS GEN Z, AS THEY CALL THEMSELVES, THE STUDENT PROTESTERS, WILL FIND A PARTY TO THROW INTO THE FRAY THEMSELVES.
BUT SIX MONTHS IS A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE COUNTRY WILL REALLY NEED PARTIES THAT CAN ATTRACT POPULAR SUPPORT AND THAT IS HARD TO SEE FROM THIS WEEK.
LISA: ALEX TREVELLI, WE KNOW YOU'LL KEEP WATCHING IT, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
ALEX: THANK YOU.
♪ LISA: ALL WARNING, THIS NEXT STORY DISCUSSES SUICIDE BUT IT CENTERS ON AN ORIGINAL IDEA FOR PREVENTING IT.
IN THE U.S.
SUICIDE IS ONE OF THE LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH CLAIMING MORE THAN 49,000 LIVES IN 2023 ALONE, ACCORDING TO THE LATEST CDC DATA.
BUT ONE ORGANIZATION HAS FOUND AN UNCONVENTIONAL TOOL TO COMBAT THOSE GRIM NUMBERS -- LAUGHTER.
THE GROUP IS CALLED 1 DEGREE OF SEPARATION, MADE UP OF COMEDIANS WHO HOLD SESSIONS THAT START NOT WITH ADVICE BUT FAMILY-FRIENDLY JOKES LIKE THESE.
>> I REALLY ENJOYED GROWING UP HERE EXCEPT FOR THE PART WHERE I ACTUALLY HAD TO LIVE HERE.
>> I WENT ON A DATE WITH THIS GIRL.
SHE WAS LIKE, YOU'RE SO TALL AND HANDSOME.
HOW ARE YOU SINGLE?
I WAS LIKE, YOU'LL SEE.
LISA: BRAD BONAR JR. IS THE FOUNDER OF THE SUICIDE PREVENTION BY COMEDY PROGRAM - 1 DEGREE OF SEPARATION.
HE JOINS US AS PART OF OUR LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION OF HEALTH AND ART, PART OF OUR ARTS AND CULTURE SERIES, CANVAS.
THANK YOU FOR TALKING TO US ABOUT THIS.
TRADITIONAL APPROACHES TO THIS AREA ARE VERY SERIOUS, STRAIGHTFORWARD, WHY DID YOU THINK COMEDY SHOULD GET INVOLVED?
BRAD: A BIG INFLUENCE WAS THE BIOGRAPHY ABOUT ROBIN WILLIAMS AFTER HE DIED BY SUICIDE.
I KEPT WAITING FOR THEM TO TALK ABOUT HIS DEPRESSION OR SUICIDE AND THEN THE DOCUMENTARY WAS OVER.
THEY DON'T EVEN MENTION A WORD ABOUT IT.
IT UPSET ME.
HE WOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T THINK HE WOULD'VE SHIED AWAY FROM THIS AS A TOPIC.
I WONDER IF I COULD GET A GROUP OF COMICS TOGETHER THAT WOULD JUST GIVE A RAW, REAL, DEMONSTRATION AND CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT DEPRESSION LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE.
LISA: YOU ARE AN ADVOCATE, COACH AND SOMEONE WHO HAS EXPERIENCED THIS YOURSELF.
BUT I WONDER, WHEN YOU GET IN A ROOM WITH COMEDIANS, WHEN THEY'RE TALKING TO FOLKS WHO MAYBE HAVEN'T OPENED UP EVEN TO THEMSELVES ABOUT THIS, WHAT DO YOU SEE?
- - WHAT DOES THIS DO WHEN IT IS HAPPENING?
BRAD: THERE ARE SO MANY STEPS TO DEALING WITH OPPRESSION.
THE FIRST IS TO TALK ABOUT IT.
IF YOU DON'T GET THAT ONE, NONE OF THE OTHER THINGS HAPPEN.
WE HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE GOING INTO A MENTAL HOSPITAL OR VOLUNTEERING THEMSELVES AFTER THEY COME TO ONE OF OUR EVENTS BECAUSE IT ENCOURAGES DIALOG AND MAKES IT FEEL COMFORTABLE.
ONE OF OUR COMICS, KEVIN DAVIS, HE'S A 20 YEAR MARINE CORPS VETERAN, MASTER SERGEANT.
UNTIL HE MET US HE HAD NEVER , TALKED ABOUT HIS DEPRESSION.
HE'S 66 NOW AND HE SAYS, THIS IS THE HAPPIEST I'VE EVER BEEN IN MY LIFE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE SECRETS.
I HAVE SPILLED THEM ALL ON STAGE.
LISA: YOU HAVE ABOUT 100 COMEDIANS SO FAR THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED.
YOU'D LIKE THEM TO BE FROM LOCAL AREAS, BUT YOU SPECIFICALLY MAKE SURE TO GO OUT TO RURAL AREAS AND ALSO MILITARY BASES.
I'M CURIOUS.
THOSE ARE TWO AREAS THAT WE SEE REALLY HEAVY INCIDENTS, OF DEPRESSION AND SUICIDE.
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED BY GOING INTO THOSE AREAS ABOUT THE PROBLEM AND RESOLVING IT?
BRAD: ONE BIG THING I LEARNED IS THAT DEPRESSION IS THE SAME FOR EVERYBODY.
EVERY CULTURE THINKS WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, BUT NO CULTURE TALKS ABOUT IT.
WE ALWAYS HAVE A VERY DIVERSE PANEL OF COMEDIANS, BUT I TELL PEOPLE, I GO, THE DIVERSITY IS JUST FOR THE FLYER, SO IT LOOKS GOOD.
BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE START TALKING ABOUT DEPRESSION, IT DOES NOT MATTER.
KEVIN DAVIS, THE FIRST SHOW HE DID FOR US AFTERWARDS, HE'S AFRICAN-AMERICAN, HE SAID, I DIDN'T REALIZE WHITE PEOPLE HAD THE SAME DEPRESSION.
WHAT I LEARNED IS EVEN IN THESE RURAL COMMUNITIES IS THAT WE'RE ALL FIRST RESPONDERS FOR A MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY.
THE FIRST PERSON FOR A MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY IS NOT GONNA BE AN EMT, A THERAPIST, A DOCTOR.
IT WILL BE YOUR FRIEND, THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU.
LISA: I KNOW YOU START WITH THE COMEDY, AND THEN, YOU SHOW THESE FIVE QUESTIONS THAT CENTER AROUND THE IDEA OF WHAT IS HELPFUL TO YOU AND WHAT IS HARMFUL TO YOU, EITHER IN YOUR OWN ACTIONS OR OTHER PEOPLE'S ACTIONS.
WHY THOSE QUESTIONS?
WHAT DO THOSE DO?
BRAD: I WROTE THESE DOWN INTO MINUTES.
WORD FOR WORD, WE'VE GIVEN OUT OVER 80,000 OF THESE FIVE QUESTION CARDS.
WE HAVE CLINICS NOW THAT THEIR INTAKE QUESTIONS FOR ALL NEW MENTAL HEALTH PATIENTS ARE OUR FIVE QUESTIONS.
THEY ARE ALL-ENCOMPASSING, A BIG UMBRELLA, NONCONFRONTATIONAL AND EVERYONE'S AFRAID TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
WELL, HERE'S FIVE QUESTIONS.
ASK THESE QUESTIONS, LISTEN AND YOU'LL HAVE AN AMAZING INSIGHT INTO WHAT SOMEBODY'S DEPRESSION FEELS LIKE, THE PHYSICAL PART OF IT, WHAT OTHERS DO THAT MAKES IT WORSE, WHAT OTHERS THAT MAKES BETTER.
THEN THAT FOURTH QUESTION, THAT SELF INVENTORY OF WHAT DO YOU DO THAT MAKES IT WORSE.
YOU COULD SAY I ISOLATE, I LIE, SAY I'M FINE WHEN I'M NOT, I DRINK TOO MUCH.
YOU KNOW ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE A FACTOR IN IT AND THEN THAT LAST QUESTION IS THE POSITIVE ONE.
WHAT DO YOU DO THAT MAKES IT BETTER?
THE QUESTIONS ARE THERE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, NOTHING CONFRONTATIONAL.
THEY'RE REALLY JUST OPEN-ENDED, SIMPLE, SIMPLE QUESTIONS.
BRAD BONAR, YOUR LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE, BUT LAUGHTER ALONG WITH LISTENING.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING US LISTEN.
BRAD: THANK YOU.
♪ LISA: THE CHAMELEON OF ROCK - DAVID BOWIE - LEFT BEHIND A PROFOUND AND COLORFUL LEGACY.
TO ROUND OUT OUR SHOW TONIGHT, WE ZOOM TO LONDON - VIRTUALLY - TO VISIT TO THE NEW HOME FOR THE BRITISH STAR'S ARCHIVE - THAT JUST OPENED THIS WEEKEND.
REPORTER: GUITARS HE STRUMMED, NOTES WITH HANDWRITTEN LYRICS, A REJECTION LETTER FROM A RECORDING STUDIO, ALL ALONGSIDE SOME OF DAVID BOWIE'S ICONIC OUTFITS LIKE THE ICE BLUE SUIT BOWIE WORE IN THE VIDEO FOR LIFE ON MARS IN 1973.
AND OF COURSE THE FAMOUS LIGHTNING BOLT JACKET FROM HIS ZIGGY STARDUST DAYS.
MADELEINE HADDON IS THE LEAD CURATOR OF THE DAVID BOWIE CENTER AT THE V&A EAST STOREHOUSE.
THERE ARE MORE THAN 90,000 ITEMS IN THE ARCHIVES AND OF THAT 200 ARE ON DISPLAY.
>> WHITTLING DOWN THAT SELECTION WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST INTELLECTUAL AND CURATORIAL CHALLENGES OF MY LIFE, CERTAINLY.
THERE'S JUST SUCH A MASSIVE AMOUNT TO CHOOSE FROM, NOT ONLY IN VOLUME OF MATERIAL BUT PERIODS OF WORK, GENRES, YOU KNOW, CREATIVE PERSONAS, EVEN PROJECTS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE WAS WORKING ON UNTIL WE GOT OUR HANDS ON THE ARCHIVE.
REPORTER: CURATOR HARRIET REED ALSO HELPED SIFT THROUGH BOWIE'S BELONGINGS.
>> EVERY DAY WAS FINDING INTERESTING STORIES, NEW DISCOVERIES, THINGS NEVER BEEN ON DISPLAY BEFORE.
BUT FOR ME, I'M ALWAYS REALLY INTERESTED BY THE EPHEMERA AROUND BOWIE'S PROCESS.
THE SORT OF NOTES HE MADE, THE TO-DO LIST, THINGS WHERE HE'S MAKING A RECORD OF THE EXHIBITIONS HE WANTS TO SEE, THE FILMS HE WANTS TO SEE, BOOKS HE WANTS TO READ, THAT KIND OF DEVOURING OF CULTURE IS REALLY FASCINATING TO KNOW WHY HE WAS SO RESTLESSLY CREATIVE.
REPORTER: BOWIE DIED IN 2016 OF LIVER CANCER AT THE AGE OF IN 69.
HIS LIFETIME, HE WAS A PROLIFIC MUSICIAN, BUT ALSO A WRITER, ACTOR, AND DESIGNER.
TOWARD THE END OF HIS LIFE, POST-IT NOTES LEFT IN HIS NEW YORK OFFICE SHOW HE WAS WORKING ON A MUSICAL SET IN 18TH CENTURY LONDON.
REPORTER: -- >> THE NOTES REVEAL HIS KEEN RESEARCH AND INTEREST IN THAT PERIOD.
HE DID A LOT OF READING UP ABOUT ARTIS OF THE TIME LIKE HOGARTH AND JOSHUA REYNOLDS, LONDON IN THE 18TH CENTURY, THE COFFEEHOUSES, THE POLITICS, AND HE WAS TRYING TO KIND OF PUT TOGETHER A STRUCTURE, IT SEEMED HOW IT WOULD WORK, WHAT WOULD MAKE IT A SUCCESS.
REPORTER: AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE ANY OF THE THOUSANDS OF ITEMS THAT AREN'T ON DISPLAY - YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO VIEW THEM UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL.
♪ LISA: NOW ONLINE FROM OUR EXCELLENT DIGITAL TEAM WE GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE SUSPECTED KILLER OF CHARLIE KIRK ALL THAT AND MORE IS ON OUR WEB ALL THAT AND MORE IS ON OUR WEB,SITE PBS.ORG/NEWSHOUR.
THAT IS IT FOR OUR PROGRAM TONIGHT.
I'M LISA DEJARDINS.
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